We shall grab n00bs with both hands!

[Akamataa]

Hmm.. Maybe we can just change quick race mode, all players will get same pretunned car chosen randomly

(This post was last modified: 17-11-2018, 09:03 by Akamataa.)

[scaftz]

That would be a waste of good matchmaking system we have right now. Beside i have an idea to make quickrace more preferrable by making it into "ranked" where it's going to be competitive mode where you lose or gain "MMR" and possibly boost it's rewards since everyone are given unfavoring stuffs on this mode, like being given a track that's not fitting for them. But again that's an idea for another time, not now.

(This post was last modified: 17-11-2018, 09:14 by scaftz.)

[susis]

erm nice but there are alot of bad racers in the server to make it happen and not enough in general to make it happen

[Z-Boy]

Or matthew what about those rental cars to be actually your beginner car, Like instead of giving you A or B or C class car instead you get to pick your first car as a gift... but instead of starting with 4000$ in the beginning, it should be replaces with 1000$ so it can be more fair.

[Helomyname]

I like the idea of the intro, not so much of "rent-a-car".

[Rarti]

giving players a nice looking fast car and letting them use it for a few races would be a nice idea, yes

[MatthewChow]

I like the in airplane character creation, but guess that will be limited into only for character creation or first character creation. I like the live character selection where we select our characters, with the camera highlighting the character we selects as seen with some roleplay servers i have been into. But it would be a problem here since we have unlimited (correct me if i am wrong) characters slot using premium. however, that's really good for new characters since it follows up with what happens next, where you arrives at the Airport and finally get the first time driving.

Yes, my idea was just for the "cinematic" intro, when it goes for swapping for being premium, it's the same as usual.

As for the following up "try the fast car" part intro where you use a provided high tuned car, i don't think offline mode would be good for that. Currently nfssa don't feature traffic or anything, imagine how dead the city will be. That's not a good first impression for newcomers. If possible, we can have it uniquely scripted. Have it race track like mapped, Scripted traffic and scripted moments to make them climatic. We can ignore this if it's going too much scripting wise and go with the other solution, online. On the other note, i also don't really like to have them online. Clearly don't wanna see very identical starter cars goes into Doherty garage every 5 minutes interval or having "newbie cars meet". Solution for that is probably make them timed, while there's no severe consequence on failing it. Instead having the timer runs out will just send them to instantly finish their task but give them some unpleasing dialogue to mock them such as "You're too slow!" or else.

Or just setting Lv 5 cops on him! xD

Also, instead of going to the garage, we can have it go to the car lot instead. Too much NFSU2 copy yes? well that's the idea. They are going to get a new ride anyway right? additionally, the objective may varies depends on player's choice of stating cities. E.G. I pick Grove Street as my starting place, then I started using my borrowed car on Los Santos Airport's parking lot and my objective is to go to Los Santos's Car Lot.

I just didn't set the objective to be going to a car lot for one simple reason...
Who is the lunatic who gets out of an hours long plane trip directly into a freaking car lot?!
Like, don't you wanna rest your feet for a bit? Get some sleep first?
Just that.

I would vote Sultan for the starter intro car on the airport and i have nice reasons why. It's argueably the most nice looking tuner car in SA and it's one most wanted car to have on the server. Also it's AWD, meaning with all the power it had shoved toward the newbies on their first time driving on nfssa, they would still fairly control it with ease. It's also placed on the middle tier in term of performance in game, so if they thought that it's the peak of what we can have on the server, WRONG! progress up and see by yourselves. This car also features decent amount of customizations since it got a tuning update recently, making an iconic one shouldn't be an issue with all those options it have.

Make it whatever you want as long as it works!

As for what happened next, i am not sure. I don't really find a good solution of making newbies get to the game further. I also dislikes the car rental for some reason. The thing is that the joy comes from driving your own car and winning on it, at least that's how it is for me. Giving them rentable fast cars will make them neglect their own car. Maxing the car without even driving it also makes no sense to me. Rented cars can be an idea for something else for preventing game overs where you lost all your cars because just got busted on your last pursuit and got your last ride impounded, but that's another thing and am not gonna say anything more about it for now.
Yeah, maxing the first Manana is indeed pain in the ass to do. I have to let faster cars joins my race in order to have races last time i am raising an alt account, as finding other newbies that just started as you is rather hard to do. Perhaps we can have Time trials cooldown reduced for newbies, something like 15 minutes per time trial considering they can't fairly race against others until their car reach certain point. Also they must be encouraged to do time trials regularly since it will be their main income for the beginning of their journey of grinding up. Put it into the tutorial, shove it into their face that it's the must do activity.
That's all for now, please make it happen. We can't neglect newbies anymore, we are losing players from time to time. Now with the exploit thingy partially solved hopefully the devs have more time working on this instead of dealing them exploits. Good day, good bye.

I agree with that about making the player neglect his own (first) car... But this was the most achievable solution I could come up with at the time...
I simplified the issue for myself. The train of thought was basically "Noobs can't find fair races or races at all because no one else drives stock class E cars. That means that in order for a noob to get matched in a race, either I would have to make all the other players want to drive stock class E cars, or I give a way for a noob to drive what everyone else is driving in races."... Well, you can imagine the implications of each solution.
And although the player would neglect his first car, once his rented one got removed, he'd have no other chance than to use his first car to buy a second higher class car, and I can almost be sure that second car and the others following it wouldn't get neglected. I also doubt any noob would be getting premium on their first week of playing, so the rent-a-car deal would stop there at least for a few months.

Hmm.. Maybe we can just change quick race mode, all players will get same pretunned car chosen randomly

God no, lol! If I ain't showing off my beautiful car for everyone to see, then what would be the point?

Or matthew what about those rental cars to be actually your beginner car, Like instead of giving you A or B or C class car instead you get to pick your first car as a gift... but instead of starting with 4000$ in the beginning, it should be replaces with 1000$ so it can be more fair.

Having a supercar to unlock beaters doesn't make much sense... Õ_õ

I like the idea of the intro, not so much of "rent-a-car".

Well, same, so if you find a way of getting everyone in the server driving stock class E cars regularly so they can be matched together with new players, be my guest!

giving players a nice looking fast car and letting them use it for a few races would be a nice idea, yes

Well, I definitely don't see harm, so far, quite the contrary, given our current situation...

[HanzoITS]

Fantastic, Chowy! I liked the intro idea, as long as it's quite intersting, while there is a bunch of SA Animators or even simple artists to draw similar stuff to NFS:U1/2 comic books.
Totally supporting your majesty!