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NFSSA Haters in a nutshell

Napisany przez Rafaea512, 14-07-2018, 00:09


NFSSA Haters in a nutshell

Offline [ROTS]Mad_Mike

#11
Agree with Akamataa, bad community, toxic mods(most of them), poor optimization, these would indeed turn away players... However, I doubt that the handling is that big of a problem, as much as the community and the lack of map variety in general... Most of the old players, like the one that cared about the game at least a little bit left... Exile, Maxy(not the romanian one), many others have left because the comunity was getting cancerous to the point where mods started even defending them, making them even more cancer, and the fact that the server... became boring after months and years of playing with no more tuning variety, no more map updates, etc...
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Offline HanzoITS

#12
Fully agree with Aka's point of view. I left the server too, and ofc in the first place I lose my hope on the community, especially the Rus one. Because there aren't so many players anymore as it was earlier. Further others who left are not so kind ones. So those guys turning the whole situation to a global problem of the society (imo) - teenagers not quite adequate behavior. Only the guys who wanted to hang out by insulting someone innocent or just be a butthole left. Moreover you can't control them, it's just have no sense - all players will be vanished in a moment.
I also agree with the dyno thing. To be honest, I stopped normally play after the URL appear, due to the fact that I was hit with a thought about wasting my time with these infinity laps and nonsensical top times (imo again). Turning back to dyno, is about to end up my activity completely. It seemed to be great at the start. But... I never expected this level of bore, tho.
But remember, at least these problems were at the moment I left. Idk what had to happen now but I don't think anything changed.
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Offline [ROTS]Mad_Mike

#13
(23-07-2018, 22:06)HanzoITS Wrote: Fully agree with Aka's point of view. I left the server too, and ofc in the first place I lose my hope on the community, especially the Rus one. Because there aren't so many players anymore as it was earlier. Further others who left are not so kind ones. So those guys turning the whole situation to a global problem of the society (imo) -  teenagers not quite adequate behavior. Only the guys who wanted to hang out by insulting someone innocent or just be a butthole left. Moreover you can't control them, it's just have no sense - all players will be vanished in a moment.
I also agree with the dyno thing. To be honest, I stopped normally play after the URL appear, due to the fact that I was hit with a thought about wasting my time with these infinity laps and nonsensical top times (imo again). Turning back to dyno, is about to end up my activity completely. It seemed to be great at the start. But... I never expected this level of bore, tho.
But remember, at least these problems were at the moment I left. Idk what had to happen now but I don't think anything changed.

I dsagree, not only bad players left... Good players did also, and why? Because the only players left on the server are basically idiots under 13...
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Offline Bunny

#14
I am kinda new on the server, but sincerely speaking I have the MTA client installed only to access this server. The fact that leaving the server and talking shit about it on other servers is just simple autism to me. It may not be the perfect community and/or racing experience as some say, but there is no reason to spread the hate to other servers and within this server. Fun fact is that the same toxic people you are referring to are not making up the whole community. Each server has flaws, but here the administration is just trying to do their best to maintain the project alive. People like to judge a lot, but try and come up with an idea like this and maintain it 24/365. So what I would advice is, if you really want to see this project succeed, try suggesting new ideas, help patch things up and hell, maybe even dedicating some time into helping the community rise, instead of whining around that the server is bad. If nobody will start supporting it, how will it progress? Hope some of my points were clear and also helpful in order for somebody to start doing shit around here. Peace out.

P.S. Leaving the server is at ones choice, but please do not advice it to others. What do you win by doing that?
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Offline [ROTS]Mad_Mike

#15
(24-07-2018, 16:28)BUNNY Wrote: I am kinda new on the server, but sincerely speaking I have the MTA client installed only to access this server. The fact that leaving the server and talking shit about it on other servers is just simple autism to me. It may not be the perfect community and/or racing experience as some say, but there is no reason to spread the hate to other servers and within this server. Fun fact is that the same toxic people you are referring to are not making up the whole community. Each server has flaws, but here the administration is just trying to do their best to maintain the project alive. People like to judge a lot, but try and come up with an idea like this and maintain it 24/365. So what I would advice is, if you really want to see this project succeed, try suggesting new ideas, help patch things up and hell, maybe even dedicating some time into helping the community rise, instead of whining around that the server is bad. If nobody will start supporting it, how will it progress? Hope some of my points were clear and also helpful in order for somebody to start doing shit around here. Peace out.

P.S. Leaving the server is at ones choice, but please do not advice it to others. What do you win by doing that?


Heh, words of a newcomer... As someone who has played on this server for around 2 years, I can say I have saw the evolution of toxicity on the server, and seen good people leave because of that, and because of the fact that they got bored since the DEVS refused to do what the community asked, example: Muscle cars. People that leave and say bad things about the server are not all just trash talking... Most of them are telling their opinion on the server, and with reasons... I have donated multiple times, gave suggestions to the devs, and finally managed to also create a map (which sucks btw), and I've done some of this stuff while BANNED in the hopes of getting this community to be better... The fact that the community is mostly toxic, the fact that most of the mods are corrupt, and together with the fact that the game becomes easier and easier with the adding of Magazine runs, Diamond hunt and stuff like this, which makes the game boring in the long run, make people leave the server and say bad things about it... When I first joined, it took me a month to get to even Class D, which was mostly cuz I also liked cruising and working on my car, but when I joined, there was nothing but racing, and the daily task... And better, you didn't unlock a whole car class with RP, you just unlocked ONE car every now and then, which made the, like, car variety a bit more diverse, if I can say that...
I hope this cleared the misunderstanding from the first part. As for the second part, advicing others to leave would MAYBE save them some money, and definitely some time, and possibly saving them from a dissapointment over time if things don't go their way... As you know, doing good is free, so, telling your opinion on something and MAYBE saving someone some time and money is worth it...


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Offline Akamataa

#16
@Mad_Mike about handling, in all arcade games, your car won't spin out/slide uncontrolable, or u can just turn on/off assists even if it is multiplayer game, look at nfs series, the crew, or even forza horizon. [young racers prefer ricing and ramming in arcade games] when are u playing the crew 90% of players are driving with full assistance. NFSSA maybe looks like arcade, but it little hard for casual arcade players to controll car propertly at beggining. Well with dyno u can actually turn on your "assistance" but most of new players don't even know about dyno existence. I thing this is reason why lot of players leave nfssa. Hard handling = hard to win race, and add to it this actual reward system : 1st place 100%, 2nd 75%, 3rd 50%, and last 25%, player get generaly nothing when he loose. But look at The crew for eg. in pvp races rewards are between 18k and 26k what give to more than 50% for last place. I don't remeber reward system in NFS World but i was similar [and based on player LVL]

About dyno... some one can make presets for all cars that will be good and easy to handle but not OP. And that dyno presets will be default. And then players don't need to waste time on making dynos if then don't want to be OP but just to enjoy game.
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Offline [ROTS]Mad_Mike

#17
(24-07-2018, 18:13)Akamataa Wrote: @Mad_Mike about handling, in all arcade games, your car won't spin out/slide uncontrolable, or u can just turn on/off assists even if it is multiplayer game, look at nfs series, the crew, or even forza horizon. [young racers prefer ricing and ramming in arcade games] when are u playing the crew 90% of players are driving with full assistance. NFSSA maybe looks like arcade, but it little hard for casual arcade players to controll car propertly at beggining. Well with dyno u can actually turn on your "assistance" but most of new players don't even know about dyno existence. I thing this is reason why lot of players leave nfssa. Hard handling = hard to win race, and add to it this actual reward system : 1st place 100%, 2nd 75%, 3rd 50%, and last 25%, player get generaly nothing when he loose. But look at The crew for eg. in pvp races rewards are between 18k and 26k what give to more than 50% for last place. I don't remeber reward system in NFS World but i was similar [and based on player LVL]

About dyno... some one can make presets for all cars that will be good and easy to handle but not OP. And that dyno presets will be default. And then players don't need to waste time on making dynos if then don't want to be OP but just to enjoy game.



Agree with the fact that it ain't full arcade, and:


1. The newcomers could be instructed into Dyno with a Tutorial like the one for the Chat and the Races.
      The tutorial could tell them everything that each section does and what affects what.
2. On forum there could be a "dyno setup sharing" thread, for players to share their Dyno setups to others.


These are also two ways of helping players with Dyno

(23-07-2018, 22:06)HanzoITS Wrote: Fully agree with Aka's point of view. I left the server too, and ofc in the first place I lose my hope on the community, especially the Rus one. Because there aren't so many players anymore as it was earlier. Further others who left are not so kind ones. So those guys turning the whole situation to a global problem of the society (imo) -  teenagers not quite adequate behavior. Only the guys who wanted to hang out by insulting someone innocent or just be a butthole left. Moreover you can't control them, it's just have no sense - all players will be vanished in a moment.
I also agree with the dyno thing. To be honest, I stopped normally play after the URL appear, due to the fact that I was hit with a thought about wasting my time with these infinity laps and nonsensical top times (imo again). Turning back to dyno, is about to end up my activity completely. It seemed to be great at the start. But... I never expected this level of bore, tho.
But remember, at least these problems were at the moment I left. Idk what had to happen now but I don't think anything changed.

I wanna reply to you in the most polite manner about the Dyno thing.
I agree with the URL, thing and the Top Times, which players that do them are basically nationalistic assholes that I won't name, cuz they know who they are Big Grin
I do disagree with the fact that the server is full of insulters and stuff like this. I do that because they are actually baiters, they avoid insultin in the hope of the other person doing something stupid and getting punished. Also, the worst community is not the Russian one, it's another one I won't name again, because snowflakes.


So, Dyno thing: 

Due to how big of an advantage it is able to give in a race, it MUST have a downside, which rn is the fact that it's BORING and sometimes hard.
If it wouldn't be boring it weould basically be too easy and too accesible to give an actual advantage to the one that knows how to set up his cars.
I will give you an example: The longer races give more RP and $. Why? Because they are longer and more boring. I mean, sure, you can do a shorter one, but you are going to get less mone for it. It's the same with the Dyno, the more you invest in it, the better the outcome, so I wouldn't really call it a bad feature because it is boring, since it's fair.
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Offline HanzoITS

#18
(24-07-2018, 09:40)[ROTS]Mad_Mike Wrote: .
I dsagree, not only bad players left... Good players did also, and why? Because the only players left on the server are basically idiots under 13...
Jeez, dude xd
In the statement which you disagree with, I meant players who left ON the server for the moment, not like leaving, but stay.

And about the 2nd reply:
Firstly, I didn't mean Russian community to be the worst. I guess I just didn't explain it properly, my bad. Because I really was communicating mainly with Rus community, I mean I used to interact with them, despite the moment that I was interacting with other nationalities too.
Secondly, I'm not so negative about other players now. I just have a few enemy-like players and that's it. Furthermore, I was only describing them, the bad ones.
Thirdly, ye you are completely right about dyno, dog. But kek. No need to explain it when I already know about the details xd. Maybe I must explain my little Opinion in every sense of the word, just for you, to not let you Explain me it one more time xd.
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Offline [ROTS]Mad_Mike

#19
(25-07-2018, 15:15)HanzoITS Wrote:
(24-07-2018, 09:40)[ROTS]Mad_Mike Wrote: .
I dsagree, not only bad players left... Good players did also, and why? Because the only players left on the server are basically idiots under 13...
Jeez, dude xd
In the statement which you disagree with, I meant players who left ON the server for the moment, not like leaving, but stay.

And about the 2nd reply:
Firstly, I didn't mean Russian community to be the worst. I guess I just didn't explain it properly, my bad. Because I really was communicating mainly with Rus community, I mean I used to interact with them, despite the moment that I was interacting with other nationalities too.
Secondly, I'm not so negative about other players now. I just have a few enemy-like players and that's it. Furthermore, I was only describing them, the bad ones.
Thirdly, ye you are completely right about dyno, dog. But kek. No need to explain it when I already know about the details xd. Maybe I must explain my little Opinion in every sense of the word, just for you, to not let you Explain me it one more time xd.

I figured you were talking about the dyno being boring as a bad thing, which IMO isn't, that's all, jeez...
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Offline HanzoITS

#20
I said I just stopped playing. I knew about the good sides. It just became boring for me. No aggressive rage quits after dyno. Just no interest to play. For me ofc.
You always can protect your position. But please. Try not to argue about my OPINION (P. S NOT A POSITION), JUST THE REASON WHY I LEFT, why I, ME . Not the others.
I don't hate nfssa or dyno. I just faced boring things for me and left.
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