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Ban Joysticks or Riot

Napisany przez RaiYou, 10-06-2018, 21:02


Ban Joysticks or Riot

Away RaiYou

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RaiYou made the argument "while using a controller, the grip/traction value also messes with the car acceleration, so on joysticks you accelerate faster, it's actually not very noticable, but in turn after turn, you see very explicitly how faster you go around corners because of that,"
Having more grip when using half throttle is not a bug, When you have less engine upgrades and you accelerate you also have more grip. That is a game mechanic, Less power on rwd = less wheel spin and more traction.
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Yeah its super fun to be able to control slidy cars with drifty builds when keyboard suffers. Super fun.
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Offline Nick33BC

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(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: ...I shouldn't even be wasting my time answearing this but lets go...
I never said, even ONCE that who uses joystick sucks. I actually said TWO TIMES that joystick users didn't suck, that joystick takes skill.
I never said you said that. I said the meme was alluding to it. And alluding means referencing.
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(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I NEVER said that tapping is a joystick only thing.
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DemK said tapping isn't fixed on controller and i was only pointing out that it is not fixed on controller or keyboard. So that has nothing to do with controller users because it works for both.

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I didn't lied to people saying that keyboard has no exploit, I said some who are fixed on keyboard still works with a joystick.
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(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I "apologize" for the memes, if this simple thing really bothers you. It was supposed to be a joke. Or you can say, a meme. Something that isn't supposed to be taken seriously.
I don't care about being insulted. And i don't find them that insulting. But it was unprofessional. 

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I did inumerous tests back when I had access to the dev server, I was the one who discovered the fps abuse exploit, and thanks to me it's now fixed.
This has nothing to do with the subject.

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I NEVER SAID that this game was supposed to be keyboard only, I said that if is a pc game then it SHOULD be played with pc things, joysticks still a option though.
The name of the post is "Ban Joysticks or Riot" And you said "Of course "Banning" is a joke, actually my suggestion would be force the server to disable the joystick settings," So joysticks not a option from what you said.

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: My information isn't false, all I said are features of a joystick anyone with a brain can play themselves and notice the differences.
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"there's no exploits anymore. only joysticks." This is false

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: And I'm too lazy to argue with the other things you said. It just looks like you're trying to make me look dumb or something, calling me a stupid moderator actually, if you're that butthurt about me complaining about joysticks, in First place, please, pay attention to what I say, then we can discuss. And stop making false accusations about me, I know I'm not the best mod out there, but I don't need this type of treatment.
I have discussed and i have made my arguments and i gave my accusations with proof. A real man can take being wrong and admit it. And that is all you had to do. You accused me of making false accusations just then aswell. Which i call a false accusation.

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: What I tried to say here is, joystick have advantages and thats a fact and when applyed correctly it gets unfair for keyboard, thats all.

All i have told you is you are wrong about things. With some evidence that you are. All you had to do was talk to me about it and understand what i am saying. I am not getting angry at anything, All i want is to tell you my side of the argument.


RaiYou made the argument "while using a controller, the grip/traction value also messes with the car acceleration, so on joysticks you accelerate faster, it's actually not very noticable, but in turn after turn, you see very explicitly how faster you go around corners because of that,"
Having more grip when using half throttle is not a bug, When you have less engine upgrades and you accelerate you also have more grip. That is a game mechanic, Less power on rwd = less wheel spin and more traction.
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(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: Yeah its super fun to be able to control slidy cars with drifty builds when keyboard suffers. Super fun.
Don't make comments like this. It's childish.

It's not a exploit. And do you really want me to use your own argument against you again? Once again, Yeah its super fun to be able to control your aim with a good mouse when laptop touch pad users suffer on shooter games. Super fun. (Unreasonable)
It's not cheating or exploiting, it's called playing a racing game on the thing it was meant to be played on. If you CHOOSE to use something else and stick to it, it is your CHOICE. But also once again top players use keyboard anyway and do amazing because it's not even a big advantage and sometimes it's not a advantage at all.
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Away RaiYou

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(11-06-2018, 04:10)Nick33BC Wrote:
(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: ...I shouldn't even be wasting my time answearing this but lets go...
I never said, even ONCE that who uses joystick sucks. I actually said TWO TIMES that joystick users didn't suck, that joystick takes skill.
I never said you said that. I said the meme was alluding to it. And alluding means referencing.
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(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I NEVER said that tapping is a joystick only thing.
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DemK said tapping isn't fixed on controller and i was only pointing out that it is not fixed on controller or keyboard. So that has nothing to do with controller users because it works for both.

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I didn't lied to people saying that keyboard has no exploit, I said some who are fixed on keyboard still works with a joystick.
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(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I "apologize" for the memes, if this simple thing really bothers you. It was supposed to be a joke. Or you can say, a meme. Something that isn't supposed to be taken seriously.
I don't care about being insulted. And i don't find them that insulting. But it was unprofessional. 

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I did inumerous tests back when I had access to the dev server, I was the one who discovered the fps abuse exploit, and thanks to me it's now fixed.
This has nothing to do with the subject.

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: I NEVER SAID that this game was supposed to be keyboard only, I said that if is a pc game then it SHOULD be played with pc things, joysticks still a option though.
The name of the post is "Ban Joysticks or Riot" And you said "Of course "Banning" is a joke, actually my suggestion would be force the server to disable the joystick settings," So joysticks not a option from what you said.

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: My information isn't false, all I said are features of a joystick anyone with a brain can play themselves and notice the differences.
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"there's no exploits anymore. only joysticks." This is false

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: And I'm too lazy to argue with the other things you said. It just looks like you're trying to make me look dumb or something, calling me a stupid moderator actually, if you're that butthurt about me complaining about joysticks, in First place, please, pay attention to what I say, then we can discuss. And stop making false accusations about me, I know I'm not the best mod out there, but I don't need this type of treatment.
I have discussed and i have made my arguments and i gave my accusations with proof. A real man can take being wrong and admit it. And that is all you had to do. You accused me of making false accusations just then aswell. Which i call a false accusation.

(11-06-2018, 03:19)RaiYou Wrote: What I tried to say here is, joystick have advantages and thats a fact and when applyed correctly it gets unfair for keyboard, thats all.

All i have told you is you are wrong about things. With some evidence that you are. All you had to do was talk to me about it and understand what i am saying. I am not getting angry at anything, All i want is to tell you my side of the argument.

1- read quote 4.
2- Tapping exploits are fixed in keyboard, if it's not tell quindo imediately, plus Even akamataa already said, with a specific mta setting some tap exploits works again in joysticks.
3- Sorry for bad english, but yeah there aren't any abusive exploits anymore, except the one I just said above, if you know any other please tell.
4- I'm not a professional, I'm a mod, sorry anyways. Just wanted to make humor.
5- You where calling me a lier over and over making me look like just a lazy being complaining, I had to point out that I also work with the server.
6- ugh. Read quote 4. And read answear 4.
7- Tell me what you know then.
8- I ain't going back with what I said, what I said isn't false, it's false only if there are other exploits that I don't know, because the ones I know, they got fixed.
9- I'm keeping my words.
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Offline Nick33BC

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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/271883344 First run at the wall i am just holding W. Second run with tapping W. You can see how much faster the car accelerates when you do that. And when you tap like that around corners you can exit corners way faster than you should. And i would like it fixed.
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Away RaiYou

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(11-06-2018, 04:47)Nick33BC Wrote: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/271883344 First run at the wall i am just holding W. Second run with tapping W. You can see how much faster the car accelerates when you do that. And when you tap like that around corners you can exit corners way faster than you should. And i would like it fixed.

Ah yes, the W spam works up to 5 times, then it slows you down, the fix is made this way because if it was with less tolerance it would be unplayable. Another reason why joystick is better.
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Offline Akamataa

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RaiYou 1 thing.. i made my top of all s-x times on keyboard... S-X are different from normal races, u need unique racing line, unique setup and dyno, and unique driving style for each car, and each map.

In past there was only 2 players that was able make better times than me, and both of them was buggers: Ray_Johnson and Deadboy. Street X is the one race type i mastered... Gamepad have nothing to do with that
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Offline Nick33BC

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Wait i have a question. You said "2- Tapping exploits are fixed in keyboard, if it's not tell quindo imediately," and "it's false only if there are other exploits that I don't know, because the ones I know, they got fixed."
So if that tapping exploit is "fixed" and it does not count as a exploit does that mean i can use keyboard and tapping to set a bunch of top times on S-X? Big Grin Is it legal then?
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Offline Tekk

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Simply give the gamepad users a proper camera position for each car and it will become a full advantage. It's on the roadmap anyways, so it's gonna happen eventually. I have a X360 controller and it's much easier for me to control the gas / steering. This saves you a lot of time when you cut the corners once you're used to it. The only issue I have with it is the default camera, literally the only reason I don't use it. Since there's also some kind of exploit (was mentioned multiple times), I don't see the reason why it should be allowed until there's a fix.
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Away OsvaldoX

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Inb4, some of u noticed that i've been playing with gamepad (when i was new), i had a poor experience with keyboard, till i rip 2 of my gamepad during my progress. Now i'm accostumed with keyboard,
but kinda lame for not finding any good races. U should know i helped deadboy to get his times at S-X b4 buffs & nerfs.
Time is everything, but any choice have a cost.
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