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Ban Joysticks or Riot

Napisany przez RaiYou, 10-06-2018, 21:02


Ban Joysticks or Riot

Away RaiYou

#21
Also again, I'm not saying that is easy it does takes skill, and it's not unbeatable too, My crew beat Joystick times kinda regularly, see DemK for example, but in some situations joysticks are way much better than using a keyboard.
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Offline Nick33BC

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(10-06-2018, 23:18)RaiYou Wrote:



GTA SA came out on console first and was built around the controller. PC port was later. NFS Games were built around the controller too. That was a terrible arguement.

1-That is Unfixable, that's why the thread.
2-GTA SA is not a racing game, if it's a port to PC then it should be played with PC things AKA Keyboard and mouse.

There are tons of people who hates to play PC games with a joystick.
And joystick specifically on this server is unfair to keyboard users.
You want your way of playing to be the best way, And i can understand that. I like a fair playing field. Even though keyboard users are setting top times and winning urls right now. But with your logic of equipment that gives you a advantage can be aplied elsewhere with the same reasoning. With that logic, Why don't we change the fps limit to 15? Then less people get a advantage of having a better computer. Having a good fps is unfair to people who don't have good computers. So limit it to 15 or maybe even 10fps. So it's even. You see where i am going with this?

Controller is very difficult to learn and keyboard users still set #1 top times and win urls all day. If you think you will do better with a controller why don't you just buy a controller. If you don't like a controller then that's your choice. But i can't play games on keyboard and mouse because my back hurts when i lean forward to use my mouse and keyboard for too long. So you will be losing me and many other players if you lose controller compatibilty as well.
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Online Bannon

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Why of course, top keyboard players (DemK, Schiller, anod, etc) can equal or beat top gamepad players but it still seems odd to outright ban the main controller for arcadey racing games which the gamemode basically is. This server is more racing than it is gta now, the time you gain with a gamepad is negligible at best and mainly helps with cars with increased oversteer. 

 How exactly you going to ban controllers anyway? Can you script in a function to check for USB devices? Probably not.
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Offline Akamataa

#24
Hey maybe we should Ban stering wheels from simulator racing games, they are giving really big advantage vs keyboard... lets do ban stering wheel from all racing games. WHY not?
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Offline Nick33BC

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(10-06-2018, 23:20)RaiYou Wrote: Also again, I'm not saying that is easy it does takes skill, and it's not unbeatable too, My crew beat Joystick times kinda regularly, see DemK for example, but in some situations joysticks are way much better than using a keyboard.

ALSO "in some situations joysticks are way much better than using a keyboard." xD
I find FWD cars much easier to drive on keyboard and i can't drive nearly as fast on controller when in a fwd car.
So i am going to copy you and say that in some situations keyboard is much better than joystick and i want keyboard banned! xD (Joke of course)

You have to tap alot to get around some corners fast on keyboard, When you can half throttle them on controller, And because you are tapping on keyboard you are doing an exploit. You can avoid doing this exploit by using a controller. Notice how things are not one sided here?
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Away RaiYou

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(10-06-2018, 23:32)Nick33BC Wrote:
(10-06-2018, 23:18)RaiYou Wrote:



GTA SA came out on console first and was built around the controller. PC port was later. NFS Games were built around the controller too. That was a terrible arguement.

1-That is Unfixable, that's why the thread.
2-GTA SA is not a racing game, if it's a port to PC then it should be played with PC things AKA Keyboard and mouse.

There are tons of people who hates to play PC games with a joystick.
And joystick specifically on this server is unfair to keyboard users.
You want your way of playing to be the best way, And i can understand that. I like a fair playing field. Even though keyboard users are setting top times and winning urls right now. But with your logic of equipment that gives you a advantage can be aplied elsewhere with the same reasoning. With that logic, Why don't we change the fps limit to 15? Then less people get a advantage of having a better computer. Having a good fps is unfair to people who don't have good computers. So limit it to 15 or maybe even 10fps. So it's even. You see where i am going with this?

Controller is very difficult to learn and keyboard users still set #1 top times and win urls all day. If you think you will do better with a controller why don't you just buy a controller. If you don't like a controller then that's your choice. But i can't play games on keyboard and mouse because my back hurts when i lean forward to use my mouse and keyboard for too long. So you will be losing me and many other players if you lose controller compatibilty as well.

I don't want to have a "best way" to play, I want fairness thats all. And I suggested the fps limit a while back when the fps exploit was up, but everyone was crying about it so yeah.
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Away RaiYou

#27
(10-06-2018, 23:35)Bannon Wrote: Why of course, top keyboard players (DemK, Schiller, anod, etc) can equal or beat top gamepad players but it still seems odd to outright ban the main controller for arcadey racing games which the gamemode basically is. This server is more racing than it is gta now, the time you gain with a gamepad is negligible at best and mainly helps with cars with increased oversteer. 

 How exactly you going to ban controllers anyway? Can you script in a function to check for USB devices? Probably not.

Of course "Banning" is a joke, actually my suggestion would be force the server to disable the joystick settings, making the controller have the standard settings making it work just like the keyboard, simple as that, this way you will be able to keep playing on joystick, but no unfairness to keyboard users.
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Offline MatthewChow

#28
Waw, this is a freaking stupid argument...
Well, people that know more than me are already stating good points, so, I got nothing of worth to add.
I'd be just repeating things at this point, but I will indeed repeat one thing, which is: Buy a gamepad if you want and stop whining about... I don't even know. There's really no case here.
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Away RaiYou

#29
(10-06-2018, 23:52)Akamataa Wrote: Hey maybe we should Ban stering wheels from simulator racing games, they are giving really big advantage vs keyboard... lets do ban stering wheel from all racing games. WHY not?

Ugh. Please akamataa. Simulators are simulators and meant to be played as simulators. Ofcourse keyboard have disadvantages in this case. Don't act stupidly.
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Offline Rarti

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well guess what, there's a thing called mouse steer, in the good hand it can destroy everything..


btw i was talking about a different exploit.. the exploit that allows you to change car in url.
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